I am looking for a translated version of the 106 page report written by Judge Micheli after the Guede trial. Does anyone happen to know where I can find it?

Hi Michael, this place is very impressive and a lot of hard work has taken place to create such a forum. Now , the bad news ,the links not working and can you tell me where to find TJMK. Thanks. I will find my way around some day.

Hi Ironside,

Yes, the link must have got broken when the forum was upgraded, that ended up breaking a lot of links. I've fixed it now, so it should work for you.

As for TJMK, you can find it here: TRUE JUSTICE FOR MEREDITH KERCHER

Many thanks Michael.

Thanks for the report. Ive been looking for it.

I've read the 4 articles, but it's only a report about the report and wouldn't be the same as the document itself. I was wondering if anyone's heard whether the full report will be released or not at some point, especially now that the trial is over (phase 1 at least)? My understanding is that it is available in Italian, but that doesn't seem to sync with the above statement that it can't be published in full. I'm under the impression that it's a public document.

It has, but it's in Italian. It has been published online by the Italian LE. Only they are allowed to do so. The articles are all you really need as they cover the translations of the key parts. If that's not good enough for you, your only option is to google translate the whole of the original Italian language report. We do have a google translated version of the full report on site. You'll find it in the 'Data Examination' sub-forum.

Darlings, I have to share my latest hate mail with you. They just don't know how to handle the rabbit thing. I love it!

You tube reply to criticism of Strange Dave:

"You are disgusting and repulsive and nothing but a rabbit obssessed man hating lesbian slut.
Your lesbian crush on Madison Paxton is disgusting and dragging a rabbit about on a lead is nothing short of weird.
Insult people and bully new posters on perugia murder file and then post pictures of rabbits.
You are just plain weird.
Strange Dave showed Ganong up for what she is, an obsessive nosey neighbour. "


It would be quite sweet unless the person who is important in all this is Meredith Kercher. Which makes it pathetic and really rather sad.

While I am at it, could posters please contact Jeff Cho at WGBB Radio to ask about their policy on offensive content being broadcast on a Community Radio Channel.

http://www.am1240wgbb.com/contact.htm

This is the contact page.

'Jeff Cho' is the person that Strange Dave asked everyone to write to to tell him 'how great I am'. Well Dave, I don't think you're great, and I don't think ridiculing a dead teenage rape and murder victim is very nice. Or very community minded. I think Jeff Cho should know the person he is employing. WGBB can't have very high moral standards as a radio station if they allow this man on the channel, to ridicule dead teenage girls who have been abused, and to mock their guests who speak for (I assume) the rest of the human race who think this is unacceptable.

Please write to Jeff Cho folks and tell him what a lovely guy Strange Dave it. I have not got a reply to my complaint yet, but I live in hope...

Hi Bard,
Stint7 alerted me to your post here. I can think of several people who could have written this. I have come to expect this kind of thing from the FOA, but this could be someone who purports to care about Meredith Kercher. Use of the word "slut" and obsession with lesbianism.... hmmm, which recently banned poster does that remind you of?

Paolo Micheli was the Italian judge in the Amanda Knox trial in Perugia. His 106 page report attached to her October 28, 2008, verdict is <a href="http://www.penale.it/page.asp?mode=1&IDPag=750">available in Italian on the internet</a>, where it can be accessed and read in Italian. This is my English translation. It is a work in progress so you can check back later.

<strong>Grounds of the Decision</strong>

On the morning of November 2, 2007, at two different times, the owners of the dwelling located at Via Sperandio 5 in Perugia found two cellular phones in the garden of their property, and gave them to the Postal Police of Perugia to let them know what had happened (they also did this because of the strange coincidence where they received, a few hours earlier, a strange and threatening phone call that raised fears of the presence of explosives in the bathroom, which turned out to be only the fantasies of a child). The first of the two cell phones was verified as having a SIM card belonging to RF, who lived at Via della Pergola 7. The Postal Police brought the phones to the house of R. but met there two other young people, the American Amanda Knox(who was living in another room of the same appartment) and her boyfriend SR.

They claimed to have already called the police (Carabinieri) because of their concerns. Actually, subsequent investigation showed that the 122 call (Like 911) actually involved two calls, the first from SR to his sister (who worked for the Carabinieri), which followed (and did not precede) the arrival of the police and the second...

As represented to the Inspector Battistelli, K and S had seen blood stains in some parts of the apartment, in particular in one of the bathrooms, and also the presence of an attempted robbery (although neither said that anything had been stolen) in the room of R. where there was broken window and a large stone on the ground. In the other bathroom there were some feces and the toilet was not flushed.

In addition, the door of one of the rooms, that was occupied by the English student Merideth, was closed, so that S. - since she hadn't responded to the telephone call of Amanda, had tried to force the door open: on the handle, but not near the exit, there were more traces of blood.

After a little while, two young people arrived at the place, AL and ZM, the latter presenting himself as the boyfriend of R. Z. described receiving a telephone call from his girlfriend, telling him that Amanda was at the apartment, and that she, who had spend the night with him in another place, but who had now gone out with a friend, asked him to go over to the place and check it out. At that point Z. asked A. to come by as well. After a few minutes, R and GP arrived, boyfriend of A. And R determined that the the cellphone had a SIM card that came from Amanda (she had given it to her)...

Amanda - according to the report of the other two young couples - had indicated the habit of K to close and lock the door also when going to the bathroom and taking a shower, however that appeared to conflict with the previous attempt of S. to force the door, la R. immediately showed alarm at the discovery of a behavior that was unusual for her English friend; the Italian girl emphasized that M. was never separated from her cell phones, in particular the one with the UK sim card that she utilized to keep in frequent contact with her mother, a it was that cell phone that was the second one to be found in the garden at Via Sperandio.

In the presence of the caution of the Postal Police, that weren't allowed to cause damage to a private property on the basis of little evidence, it was A. who took the trouble to kick the door down, but he didn't yet go into the room, he noted with horror a large amount of blood and a nude body - evidently a dead body, on the ground, jutting out from underneath a quilt. This turned out to be the body of Meredith, that showed on the neck a large wound made by a cutting weapon. Inspector Battistelli, at that point, prevented everyone present from entering the room, and summoned the colleagues of the Mobile Squad.

Then and in the following days there was an on the scene investigation managed by the Service of the Scientific Police, which resulted in the following:
-The entrance of the apartment, where there was a metal gate and wooden door, did not present any evidence of a break-in; the spring-latch of the lock of the shutter was blocked, but that (as verified by initial testimony, from the declarations of R. and M) was the fault of the same occupants, because of a defect of the functioning of this lock.
-Immediately after a little engagement in front of the threshold, one reached a living room-kitchen, where there was the imprint of the sole of a shoe and small traces of blood.
-on the right of the living room there was the door of the room occupied by M., inside of which there was nothing significant, while in a first bathroon, adjacent to the room, the toilet was not flushed, and was filled with feces and toilet paper.
-on the side apposite one reached instead the room of R.., that presented ransacked drawers, with clothers and various objects strewn around on the bed and the floor; the inspection report of 2 p.m., November 2, 2007, noted that:

"The room is lighted by light from a window, that is in the middle third of the wall that faces the driveway of the house. The same is protected externally by a green wooden Persian shutter, which was in fact partly opened and without signs of a break-in. On the right of the Persian, there is a locking mechanism called 'a spagnoletta'. The window has two shutters in white wood, with pA.lli (sic) in glass, opening toward the interior, each one provided on the interior with a shutter of white wood. The shutter on the right was furnished with a little keyed lock

To be continued.

Hello Billingual and welcome to PMF.

Thank you for your translation

There are though a couple of errors.

1. The SIM card did not belong to Raffaele Sollecito, it belonged to Filomena Romanelli.

2. Raffaele did not live at via della Pergola 7, that was the address of Amanda Knox, Meredith Kercher, Filomena and Laura.

3. Judge Paulo Micheli was not the judge at Amanda's trial. Judge Micheli was the judge who presided over Rudy Guede's trial and Amanda and Raffaele's pre-trial hearing and it is for those proceedings that your cited report relates. The Judge presiding over Amanda and Raffaele's actual trial was Judge Massei. The sentencing Report from the trial aithored by Judge Massei and the assistant judge is currently being translated and prepared for publication here on PMF.

Welcome again and you will find the main discussion on the board in this thread here: XVI. MAIN DISCUSSION, March 5 -

Thanks, I appreciate feedback like this as I don't know the history that well and am doing this on the fly. Feedback about who the players are (e.g. "K" can be two people??) is appreciated, and I will put in the real names instead of the initials (I wasn't sure about that). Also thanks for clarification about the two reports as I was trying to find a translation online but kept getting directed to FOA sites with a lot of links but no real information, and if others are working on the Massei report then mine won't be a duplication of effort hopefully.

I think you mean "did not".

Indeed...fixed it

sulla parete

-on the half wall, having on the left the door of the room of R. and to the right of that of M., opens a straight corridor (which leads to the other two rooms and to a second bath) on the floor of which was found other shoe prints and traces of blood;
-in the bathroom, which was used by two occupants of the last rooms (according to K. and K.) the presence of a great deal of blood marks was discovered, as described in the inspection report:

"On the floor, in the space underneath the sink, we observe a blue cotton pad that is 74 x 48 cm in size. In the same place, in the area on the back right hand side, there is a stain of blood. Over the front left edge of the sink, rests a plastic container with a cotton "fioc", whose cover, at the lower right edge, is stained with blood. Three other drops are observed on the left side of the sink.

At the same height, in the inside of the basin of the sink, there is a blood drop, which extends toward the sink's drain. The aluminum faucet of the sink, on the upper side, is notably stained with bloody substance. Small traces of blood in the shape of drops are on the upper part of the toilet lid, not to mention the tile of the bathroom floor, next to the pipe connecting connecting the toilet and the aluminum ring that covers the pipe. Inside the bidet, we see a streak of blood next to a drop of blood that is about 2 cm in circumference, with running down [to the bottom of the bidet]. Another drop of blood is on the upper part of the bidet, on the left side, at the height of the bidet tap. On the plastic plate of the ignition switch is a drop of bloody substance; a second drop is on the power button. On the right side of the shutter of the door to the bathroom there is a streak of blood with a total length of 26 cm."

-while in the room used by K. (the first on the left) the investigation found nothing of interest, in the last room was found the lifeless corpse of K., that became the focus of attention of the investigators. Starting at the entry door, the crime scene was described in the following way:

"The brass colored interior door knob, which was 99 cm above the floor, is notedly smeared with blood, mostly on the upper part, with blood.

Hi bilingual and welcome to PMF. I just want to make sure we're on the same page: Is your partial translation from the Massei report (400+ pages and issued in March 2010) or the Micheli report (106 pages and issued in 2009)? If the former, we have already translated it (a laborious task) and are currently proofreading and editing it. We will make it available to the whole wide world once it is ready, hopefully in June. It has taken some time because our team of volunteer translators is comprised of people with day jobs in demanding fields (we have university professors, physicians, biologists, translators, lawyers, etc.) who spend their spare time doing what they can.

If you can wait a couple of weeks, the report will be available in English.

No it is the 106 page Micheli report. I haven't found a translation of that anywhere, or am I missing something?

No, there is no complete translation of the Micheli Report. The best you might find is a Google translation, which would be very poor indeed.